Draft synthesis: Dual and triple incretin receptor agonists… — submissions
The 7 submissions received, published in full with declared interests and secretariat responses.
§2Submissions and responses
7 submissions were received. Each is published in full below with its declared interest, the secretariat response and the disposition. The Institute publishes submissions it did not accept in the same form as those it did.
Absence of evidence is presented in a form a reader will take as negative evidence
Where the Institute has identified no study, the draft states that no evidence was found. In several places that sentence sits immediately after a paragraph describing an adverse outcome, and the juxtaposition invites the reading that the compound was studied and found wanting.
The respondent proposes a standing formulation, used identically wherever the situation arises, distinguishing an outcome that was studied and not demonstrated from an outcome that has not been studied at all.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The two states are different, they support different decisions, and the draft rendered them in language a reader could not reliably separate.
A standing formulation has been adopted and is applied wherever an evidence gap is recorded, distinguishing an outcome assessed and not demonstrated from an outcome not assessed. The formulation is identical at every occurrence so that it can be recognised at a glance.
The same concept is given three different names in one document
The draft refers to the same quantity as a response rate, a responder proportion and a categorical outcome in different sections. The respondent, who works in health-technology assessment, states that a reader cannot tell whether the three refer to one thing or to three.
The respondent proposes that the glossary term be used at every occurrence and that the glossary entry be linked at first use in each section rather than only at first use in the document.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The variation was stylistic and its cost to the reader exceeds any benefit.
A single term is now used throughout for each defined concept, and the glossary entry is linked at first use within each section rather than once per document.
Doses differing several-fold are pooled without examining dose-response
Contributing trials administer doses that differ by a factor of several. The draft pools them and reports one estimate. The respondent states that where a dose-response relationship exists the pooled figure corresponds to no dose that anyone receives.
The respondent proposes that estimates be reported by dose and that dose-response be examined where the data allow.
The secretariat accepts this submission. A pooled estimate across doses is an estimate for an average dose that no protocol specifies.
Estimates are now reported by dose group, a dose-response examination is reported where three or more dose levels contribute, and the pooled across-dose estimate is removed rather than retained alongside.
The document should state what a reader ought to do
The draft assesses evidence and stops. The respondent, a practising clinician, states that a reader arriving at the document with a decision to make is left to convert an assessment into an action without help, and proposes that each document close with a recommendation.
The respondent argues that other evidence bodies issue recommendations and that declining to do so transfers the difficult part of the work to the reader.
The secretariat does not accept this submission, and records that the point is a reasonable one rather than a misunderstanding.
The Institute assesses evidence and does not issue recommendations, because a recommendation embeds values and a resource context that the Institute does not hold and cannot state. That constitutional limit is published on the methodology page and is not varied by consultation. The submission remains published in full.
The review question is drawn too broadly to be answerable
The respondent states that the population as registered spans groups in which the intervention would be expected to behave differently, and that a single estimate across them is uninformative.
The respondent proposes that the question be split and the review re-registered.
The secretariat does not accept this submission. The breadth was registered before screening, the pre-specified subgroups address the variation the respondent identifies, and re-registering after the results are known would convert a pre-specified analysis into a post hoc one.
The question stands as registered. The point is recorded in the limitations, and the assessment committee has noted it for the protocol of the next version of this review, which will be registered before the search is run. The submission remains published in full.
Efficacy outcomes are rated for certainty and harms are not
The draft assigns certainty ratings to the efficacy outcomes and reports harms narratively without ratings. The respondent states that the asymmetry implies harms are less amenable to assessment when they are simply less well measured.
The respondent proposes that harms carry certainty ratings on the same scale, with the reasons for downgrading stated.
The secretariat accepts this submission. Rating one side of the balance and not the other produces a document that cannot be used to weigh them.
Every reported harm now carries a certainty rating on the same scale as the efficacy outcomes, with the downgrade reasons stated, and discontinuation for adverse events appears in the summary of findings rather than in an annex.
The review does not say when it will be updated or what would trigger an update
The respondent states that a synthesis in a field where trials report frequently is out of date from the day it is published, and that a reader has no way to know whether the version in front of them is current.
The respondent proposes a stated trigger for an update as well as a scheduled review date.
The secretariat accepts this submission. A review date alone tells a reader when the document will be looked at, not whether it should already have been.
Every synthesis now records a scheduled review date and a stated update trigger, being the reporting of a trial that would materially change the contributing evidence, and the registered trials capable of triggering an update are listed by name.
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